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Managing beyond Web 2.0

Companies should prepare now for the day when Web 2.0 morphs into Web 3.0.

This is a Conversation Starter, one in a series of invited opinions on topical issues. Read the essay, then share your thoughts by commenting below.

It’s hardly news that the Internet has evolved into the primary vehicle for communication, information, and commerce. But in a surprising twist, today’s online customers—as both producers and consumers of their own content and services—ferociously guard their online experiences. This trend, which goes far beyond Web buzz, is catching some executives by surprise and making others more than a bit worried.

What does this development mean for your company? In effect, that its marketers are being replaced. As markets morph into Web 2.0 “conversations” and consumers gain much greater freedom to pursue their own interests, customers are doing things that online marketing managers don’t necessarily want—or expect—them to do. For example, they can easily connect with one another, often using multimedia sites such as YouTube and Flickr, so they themselves can satisfy their need for information about products. What’s more, consumers may trust information obtained in this way much more than they do information from your company. What will happen when these consumer experiences are much more interesting than anything your marketers have put up on the Web?

Executives can use a model we at the Sloan Center for Internet Retailing have developed called LEAD (listen, experiment, apply, develop) to create a road map that will help companies thrive in the online world’s environment of constant change.

Listen. Your organization should have a formal process to monitor and analyze what its customers are saying about it online and then use this information as an early-warning system. Even casual observation of these online conversations is better than nothing. Indeed, customers are probably already talking about you on sites such as Facebook or Kaboodle, whether or not you’ve set up pages there. They are also using microblogging platforms such as Twitter to broadcast their latest feelings about using your products and services. Some companies (such as Nielsen Online, with its BuzzMetrics services) specialize in analyzing this online chatter, though in-house efforts also can be very effective.

But simply entering the game is only a start. Companies should always assume that the digital environment will change rapidly—so they must adapt accordingly. Rather than pushing messages at consumers, marketers should listen to them and think constantly about ways to engage with them actively. A social Web presence that is tone deaf to a customer’s needs augurs rough times ahead: after one consumer products company, late last year, aired a Web video that some customers perceived as insensitive, many were so outraged that they pressed for a boycott of the brand. Worse still, its besieged managers didn’t bother to listen to the reaction after releasing the video—behavior that further incensed consumers. Social-media experts unanimously turned thumbs down on the company’s lackadaisical response, which led to widely publicized compilations of the tweets, blog posts, and YouTube video reactions; to mainstream media coverage of the debacle; and, finally, to what some considered an inadequate apology from the company. What’s particularly relevant is that most of these events unfolded over the course of a single weekend day.

Experiment. Don’t just monitor social media—engage your newly empowered customers by using the novel tools of Web 2.0 and beyond. Start with simple pilots: for example, create a company profile on social-networking sites, such as Ning, or sponsor a promotion on the innovative social-shopping site Polyvore. Make friends with bloggers and tweet your customers on Twitter. Kimberly-Clark, for instance, used its Huggies “Baby Countdown” widget to engage its customers on their computer desktops. Smirnoff used the viral-video marketing vehicle Tea Partay to promote its Raw Tea product. The campaign was a hit on YouTube.

While return-on-investment metrics for social media are still in the early stages, these experiments clearly pay off big time in greater customer awareness and brand engagement. Unless you have Web 2.0 experts on your team, stick with small experiments, since big ones can fail badly. For example, create a company-controlled community, perhaps through a blog, that gives your customers a place to offer feedback about your products and services—a basic move many companies still ignore. Also, take the first steps toward cocreation: engage your customers through collaborative efforts that conceive new offerings and ad campaigns, as Frito Lay did with its innovative customer-created ads campaigns “Crash the Super Bowl,” “Fight for the Flavor,” and “The Quest.” Remember, though, that there really aren’t any best practices or established business models yet. For now, companies just need to get some experience—and quickly.

Apply. Take the experiments and apply them. To make it easier to reach out to customers, optimize your Web site so that it connects fluidly with online communities and social-media sites. Make it simple for consumers to link to you and tag your content, and find ways to make your site more relevant in social-networking searches. If you have nothing worth linking to or tagging, or if your content isn’t relevant to consumers at all, you’re in trouble. Measuring impact is paramount, so you’ll need to use the Web’s predictive tools and quantitative analysis to track the results of your experiments. As you gain experience, you can apply what you learn on a larger scale.

Develop. The Internet is a social medium and should therefore be a crucial part of any company’s marketing mix. But it is critical to develop integrated marketing programs that use the Web as more than just another advertising channel. Companies must therefore rapidly flee from the mass-media broadcast mentality: for example, rather than simply buying ads on MySpace, they should make interactive Web 2.0 elements part of their marketing programs.

Consider the way GlaxoSmithKline handled the growing consumer confusion and concern surrounding the side effects of its mass-market over-the-counter weight-loss drug Alli. The company confronted the problem directly by setting up the My Alli community site, which includes active forums, videos, FAQs, a membership plan to aid weight loss, interactive diet tools, information on diet and support groups, cobranding, links to partners (eDiets for home meals, links to Alli retailers), and a sweepstakes tie-in to TV and print advertising campaigns. This approach allows the company to address consumers in a direct, nonthreatening way and to use basic Web 2.0 features that wrap these messages in a warm and supportive experience. When consumers search the Web for information about Alli, they see GlaxoSmithKline’s myalli.com within the first three organic search results, the better to counteract paid ads that are either scary (“diet-pill warnings”) or questionable (supposedly unbiased diet pill reviews on Britneys-blog.com), as well as links that emphasize the “icky” side effects. When consumers click through to myalli.com, they find a comprehensive site with straightforward, detailed product information, which helps the company mitigate the effects of information it can’t control. This site is a terrific example of how to integrate social media into a marketing campaign in an effective way.

Bottom line: by focusing on the fundamental aspects of the consumers’ online behavior— not just current best practices—companies will be better prepared when Web 2.0+ morphs into Web 3.0 and beyond.

About the Author

Donna Hoffman is the chancellor’s chair and professor of marketing at the University of California, Riverside. She is codirector of the UCR Sloan Center for Internet Retailing and conducts research on Internet strategy and online consumer behavior.

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  • 25 JUNE 2010
    Sourabh Chatterjee
    Client relationship manager
    Infosys
    Madison, WI USA

    In today’s omnipresent social media world, the key question plaguing companies and consumers is: can we trust the information we see and find on the Web?...

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    Sourabh Chatterjee
    Client relationship manager
    Infosys
    Madison, WI USA

    In today’s omnipresent social media world, the key question plaguing companies and consumers is: can we trust the information we see and find on the Web? It might be an overenthusiastic couch potato telling and narrating (with pictures and videos) about his daring adventures half way across the world OR a company using an agressive viral marketing campaign to show interviews with satisfied consumers of their products (when the reality might be very different).

    How do we trust the info, how we use the info and how much weight this should carry in strategic decision making for companies is still evolving.

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  • 26 MARCH 2010
    Vinod Pillai
    Managing Consultant
    IBM
    Bangalore, India

    ...My only gripe is that the article hardly speaks on how Web 2.0 would morph into Web 3.0.

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    Vinod Pillai
    Managing Consultant
    IBM
    Bangalore, India

    Good article. Contains handy tips for companies looking to leverage Web 2.0. The LEAD technique makes a lot of sense. My only gripe is that the article hardly speaks on how Web 2.0 would morph into Web 3.0.

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  • 26 MARCH 2010
    Francisco Laborde
    consultant
    self employed
    Querétaro, Mexico

    I may be a little bit naive, but maybe the times when you could trick people into buying snake oil are over....

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    Francisco Laborde
    consultant
    self employed
    Querétaro, Mexico

    I may be a little bit naive, but maybe the times when you could trick people into buying snake oil are over. Maybe there is a new game: invest in user research before you design your product (or service) and then, put it where people can see it. They’ll know a good deal when they see it. On second thought... I am naive.

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  • 9 OCTOBER 2009
    Stephen Biggerstaff
    Senior Consultant
    Conequity Resources LLC
    Charlotte, NC USA

    Colley and La Roche hit the nail on the head - this is not about the end of marketers or marketing (unless you believe marketers simply create ads), it’s about the necessity to evolve...

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    Stephen Biggerstaff
    Senior Consultant
    Conequity Resources LLC
    Charlotte, NC USA

    Colley and La Roche hit the nail on the head - this is not about the end of marketers or marketing (unless you believe marketers simply create ads), it’s about the necessity to evolve an organization’s ability to understand markets and customers in new, dynamic ways.

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  • 9 OCTOBER 2009
    Linda Ollis
    Principal/Owner
    Ollis Associates
    Omaha, NE USA

    Excellent advice, particularly for the healthcare provider industry. We tend to take ourselves too seriously and downplayed social media initially....

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    Linda Ollis
    Principal/Owner
    Ollis Associates
    Omaha, NE USA

    Excellent advice, particularly for the healthcare provider industry. We tend to take ourselves too seriously and downplayed social media initially. With so many procedures being elective these days (e.g. bariatric surgery), we’ve found it critical to monitor various blogs and Web sites where the most honest information and evaluation can be found!

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  • 26 AUGUST 2009
    Jennifer Jarratt
    Principal
    Leading Futurists, LLC
    Washington, DC USA

    Years ago we talked about electronic communications coming to dominate how a company does business. I don’t think we anticipated how much of this communication would come from way outside the company...

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    Jennifer Jarratt
    Principal
    Leading Futurists, LLC
    Washington, DC USA

    Years ago we talked about electronic communications coming to dominate how a company does business. I don’t think we anticipated how much of this communication would come from way outside the company—the occasional consumer. It seems to expand the stakeholders that a company has and can talk to and keep “in the loop.” As you know, that is not generally the way even modern companies are designed to communicate. There’s an organizational barrier between “us” and “them” that marketing straddles. Furthermore, with consumer goods, social networking can jump the additional barriers that retail sets up between the producer and the consumer. On the other hand, the chatter out there can deliver lots of early warning information about what the consumer thinks, wants, and hopes to change.

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  • 19 AUGUST 2009
    Vassilis Goulandris
    Communication Strategy
    Consultant
    Athens, Greece

    ...Social media tactics cannot replace the power of mass communication which is largely responsible for creating a “common consciousness” around a product (it’s called branding)....

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    Vassilis Goulandris
    Communication Strategy
    Consultant
    Athens, Greece

    Marketers are not replaced of course just because audiences behave differently in the Web era. They just need to refocus and rethink their strategies. It is probably a stereotype, but I do think that the major obstacle here is the difficulty of an internal “culture shift” and the accompanying institutional inertia of companies which still think along old paradigms like ATL (above the line), BTL (below the line), PR, promo, and so on. In this new world, the lines are blurred for good. This being said, I also think it is too early to pronounce the death of advertising. Social media tactics cannot replace the power of mass communication which is largely responsible for creating a “common consciousness” around a product (it’s called branding). Now, what we do need is better metrics (we still do not have the equivalent of TV ratings which are the currency of trad media placement) and better strategies seamlessly merging off-line with on-line. It’s called marketing strategy.

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  • 6 AUGUST 2009
    Peter Rabbitts
    Knowledge Adviser
    Acas
    UK

    ...Mirroring the economic disputes of the nineteenth century around free trade, we are now engaged in a debate over the benefits of this new order. Is the tide a relentless one, and if so, will it really pay off?

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    Peter Rabbitts
    Knowledge Adviser
    Acas
    UK

    The success of Web 2.0 and the prospects for Web 3.0 and beyond are inextricably linked to a culture shift regarding the status accorded to information. Traditionally, information has benefited its owner—the law has come to recognise that in the concept of intellectual property. With the networking opportunities now at our disposal, the power of information lies in its accessibility on a global scale, whereby the value of it resides in the dynamics of the conversations it provokes. Mirroring the economic disputes of the nineteenth century around free trade, we are now engaged in a debate over the benefits of this new order. Is the tide a relentless one, and if so, will it really pay off?

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  • 5 AUGUST 2009
    Raj Sheelvant
    Blogger
    itstrategyblog.com/
    Arizona, USA

    Excellent strategy. But this article does not explain who should lead these Web 2.0 projects. Should there be a central coordinated effort led by corporate executives, or should it be dealt in piecemeal by marketing /sales department?...

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    Raj Sheelvant
    Blogger
    itstrategyblog.com/
    Arizona, USA

    Excellent strategy. But this article does not explain who should lead these Web 2.0 projects. Should there be a central coordinated effort led by corporate executives, or should it be dealt in piecemeal by marketing /sales department? I think it should be a coordinated effort by CIO and CMO jointly owning a long term Web 2.0 strategy. The CMO can own the user ‘experience’ and CIO can own the ‘scalable’ IT infrastructure. I think the ‘D’ in LEAD is critical and if Web 2.0 is implemented in the absence of business strategy, it will be of little use in the long run.

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  • 5 AUGUST 2009
    Andrew Peel
    Owner
    APeel Solutions
    Manchester, Lancashire UK

    ...Twitter about the company and the people that work there, not the product and services or breaking company news....

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    Andrew Peel
    Owner
    APeel Solutions
    Manchester, Lancashire UK

    I think the issue that many businesses have not yet grasped is that Web 2.0 is based on the simple concept that people buy from people they know, like, and trust. For big brands many people subconsciously jump to the trust stage. But this is only because their peers have referred the product to them.

    So how do you achieve know, like, and trust? Know: Twitter about the company and the people that work there, not the product and services or breaking company news. Like: a Facebook fan page where sales vouchers are given, deeper information about latest product releases, and the benefits of the new product. Trust: a company blog with interesting things going on in the industry as well as that company. Stories about employees, why it’s a great place to work there, green policy, social responsibility policy, ethics, etc. All this should be managed by a social media manager to make sure the correct messages get out in the correct channels. Also be open and transparent, that’s the number one lesson from the banking crisis: people no longer trust big business you have to get their trust back.

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  • 5 AUGUST 2009
    Jan Fanøe
    CEO
    Punctum Management
    Denmark

    ...the question is not how to change from Web 2.0 to Web 3.0. The question is what follows after Web. When asking like this it’s more obvious we have to think in bigger scales....

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    Jan Fanøe
    CEO
    Punctum Management
    Denmark

    What strikes me is that often the question is more important than the answer. And the question is not how to change from Web 2.0 to Web 3.0. The question is what follows after Web. When asking like this it’s more obvious we have to think in bigger scales. I also guess that most participating in this discussion are older than Millennials...

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  • 5 AUGUST 2009
    Per Karlberg
    Founder
    REGE League
    Sweden

    @ MA Wehbe: I completely agree with you, discussions about Web 2.0 for enterprises are for some reason always restricted to the b2c setting. I for one think that it could have an even greater impact for b2b or intra-firm......

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    Per Karlberg
    Founder
    REGE League
    Sweden

    @ MA Wehbe: I completely agree with you, discussions about Web 2.0 for enterprises are for some reason always restricted to the b2c setting. I for one think that it could have an even greater impact for b2b or intra-firm, where closer and more natural communities and networks are being built already without the technology. Furthermore, the efforts would not only be aimed at mitigating or regaining control over the conversations out there, since firms don’t have the same authoritative relationship with other parts of it’s (b2b) community. Just imagine how a global purchasing department could use social networks, blogs and wikis to enhance its network of commodity managers, suppliers, relevant academia, and purchasing departments of other similar (but non-competing) firms.

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  • 5 AUGUST 2009
    Ron Colley
    Perth, Australia

    I thinks this is called Feedback 1.0. The only change is the speed of the process.

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    Ron Colley
    Perth, Australia

    I thinks this is called Feedback 1.0. The only change is the speed of the process.

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  • 5 AUGUST 2009
    Craig Pearce
    Principal
    Craig Pearce Strategic Communication
    Sydney, Australia

    Social media is already on the path to seeing brands share the power over who/what determines its brand equity. It is also a mechanism that is forcing brands to engage more with stakeholders and be more transparent....

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    Craig Pearce
    Principal
    Craig Pearce Strategic Communication
    Sydney, Australia

    Social media is already on the path to seeing brands share the power over who/what determines its brand equity. It is also a mechanism that is forcing brands to engage more with stakeholders and be more transparent. In essence, it could well turn out to be the change in our world that facilitates James Grunig’s 2-way symmetrical communication model being practiced more frequently. This, in theory, will lead a more responsive business sector and a more equitable society. That would be something, wouldn’t it?

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  • 4 AUGUST 2009
    Harold Pinto
    Marketing Director
    LifeWay
    Nashville, TN USA

    ...at the same time that the level of granularity in communication increases, will not the same occur with the consumer’s expectation for the customization of offerings?...

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    Harold Pinto
    Marketing Director
    LifeWay
    Nashville, TN USA

    Social media is definitely transforming the way consumers communicate about value they expect to receive. But at the same time that the level of granularity in communication increases, will not the same occur with the consumer’s expectation for the customization of offerings? Unless companies are prepared to better respond to individual product specifications, will they not just be increasing the level of dissatisfation out in the market place? I believe processes, electronic or not, need to assist on both ends of the spectrum or a lot of frustration will be created. A company better be ready to respond, or down goes the experience. Social media and mass-customization can make a winning proposition.

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  • 1 AUGUST 2009
    Lohith Jajee
    Portal, Content and Collaboration
    Infosys Technologies Limited
    London, UK

    If Web 2.0 was all about Online User Engagement, next would be Experience 2.0. One key customer expectation is to have a seamless customer experience across a multi channel environment...

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    Lohith Jajee
    Portal, Content and Collaboration
    Infosys Technologies Limited
    London, UK

    If Web 2.0 was all about Online User Engagement, next would be Experience 2.0. One key customer expectation is to have a seamless customer experience across a multi channel environment which would be the Journey from Web 2.0 to Experience 2.0 (Multi Channel Experience Management & Multi Channel Analytic).

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  • 24 JULY 2009
    Brendan Hughes
    e-Commerce Manager
    FBD Insurance
    Ireland

    You hit the nail on the head when you suggest that companies must rapidly flee from the mass-media broadcast mentality....

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    Brendan Hughes
    e-Commerce Manager
    FBD Insurance
    Ireland

    You hit the nail on the head when you suggest that companies must rapidly flee from the mass-media broadcast mentality. We’re moving from one-to-many to one-to-one or peer-to-peer communications. This is a paradigm shift for marketers that sees control of the message move away from them. The role of marketers will become less and less important in organisations as this shift happens, unless of course they can re-skill and adjust to the new paradigm.

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  • 21 JULY 2009
    Bill Freedman
    Owner
    showcasemarketing.com
    San Carlos, CA USA

    ...Finding the fulcrum between the positive concept of “leadership” and the negative concept of “control” is an interesting topic for further discussion.

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    Bill Freedman
    Owner
    showcasemarketing.com
    San Carlos, CA USA

    Luis Martinez Funes raised an important point: the need to listen rather than control. That said, there is tremendous value for a business to provide leadership, direction, and investment to nurture a positive experience for the community and company. Finding the fulcrum between the positive concept of “leadership” and the negative concept of “control” is an interesting topic for further discussion.

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  • 21 JULY 2009
    François La Roche
    Partner
    Vectis Consulting Group
    Canada

    We should rather talk about Marketing 2.0 (or 3.0). People make change happen, not the technology....

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    François La Roche
    Partner
    Vectis Consulting Group
    Canada

    We should rather talk about Marketing 2.0 (or 3.0). People make change happen, not the technology. Focussing on Web 2.0 and 3.0 is, again, a techno-driven, myopic view of the change that is happening in the commercial and societal environments. Let’s move beyond the lines of HTML code and the functionality they bring!

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  • 21 JULY 2009
    Harpreet Kaintel
    Regional Strategy Director
    ZenithOptimedia
    Singapore

    Useful essay, but what is more critical today is understanding the relationships that are driving this complex cultural shift....

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    Harpreet Kaintel
    Regional Strategy Director
    ZenithOptimedia
    Singapore

    Useful essay, but what is more critical today is understanding the relationships that are driving this complex cultural shift. As Lawrence Lessig and many other experts put it: it’s the emergence of commercial and shared cultures which are at odds in this space. Companies need to adapt and learn to operate in this shared culture, especially if their industries can go digital in any way. It’s not enough to just shift communication into digital realm, it’s a culture of living in this new paradigm whether its internal, external culture, or the relationships that a company has with its customers, suppliers, or other stakeholders. This requires a major shift in world view and in the way we understand, view, and manage relationships at every level. The business successes of today: Google, Facebook, You Tube, Twitter are all based on this understanding while the traditional-model businesses struggle to even be part of the discussions going on about them.

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  • 21 JULY 2009
    Alex Rishi Sankar
    Consultant
    Infosys Technologies Limited
    Dayton, OH USA

    Very valid point on marketers being replaced. In fact, I would go as for as to say that many other roles are being impacted, if not necessarily replaced, as well....

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    Alex Rishi Sankar
    Consultant
    Infosys Technologies Limited
    Dayton, OH USA

    Very valid point on marketers being replaced. In fact, I would go as for as to say that many other roles are being impacted, if not necessarily replaced, as well. For instance, these days it is very common to see people checking for solutions online before contacting a company. I have done that a countless number of times. Isn’t this an example of service representatives getting replaced? The challenge really is controlling these ‘new’ marketers/representatives/others. They are not on your payrolls and hence they decide what they want to say.

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  • 20 JULY 2009
    Peter Hirsch
    President
    Peter Hirsch Strategies
    New York, NY USA

    ...What will be interesting is to see how the tone of the conversation changes as companies actually do respond to consumers and react to their input. Will they do things that real people do in real conversations...

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    Peter Hirsch
    President
    Peter Hirsch Strategies
    New York, NY USA

    A straightforward and usable paradigm. What will be interesting is to see how the tone of the conversation changes as companies actually do respond to consumers and react to their input. Will they do things that real people do in real conversations, such as admit ignorance, apologize, disagree, express feelings, change their minds? The companies that figure out how to do this properly will have a huge advantage.

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  • 20 JULY 2009
    Tim Akinnusi
    Marketing Manager
    Nedbank
    South Africa

    ...Granted that there are not hard and fast rules to getting value out of social media, but there are a good number of case studies and examples to mimic!

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    Tim Akinnusi
    Marketing Manager
    Nedbank
    South Africa

    I enjoyed the article. I like the fact that more guidelines are emerging about how to engage with consumers, who clearly are in the driver’s seat as far as controlling the conversations. Granted that there are not hard and fast rules to getting value out of social media, but there are a good number of case studies and examples to mimic!

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  • 20 JULY 2009
    Jeeva Sathurayar
    CEO
    33 Interactions Pty Ltd
    Sydney, Australia

    ...Focusing solely on the lessons of web 2.0—at the expense of reinventing the marketing function as a whole—will prove dangerous.

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    Jeeva Sathurayar
    CEO
    33 Interactions Pty Ltd
    Sydney, Australia

    I agree with the principles of this article. The lessons from web 2.0 will hold water with web 3.0. Having said that, brands and companies have much work to do across the marketing function—dealing with and addressing empowered and savvy consumers, tailoring brand propositions for real segments and down to individual levels, creating genuine value, addressing an ever expanding array of channels and touch points, injecting the social component into marketing, integrating across channels and touch points, and so on. Focusing solely on the lessons of web 2.0—at the expense of reinventing the marketing function as a whole—will prove dangerous.

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  • 20 JULY 2009
    MA Wehbe
    Business Development Manager
    SITA
    Beirut, Lebanon

    After reading so many articles on Web 2.0, very little can be learned on how this trend can benefit B2B marketing. Most, if not all, examples and case studies focus on B2C....

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    MA Wehbe
    Business Development Manager
    SITA
    Beirut, Lebanon

    After reading so many articles on Web 2.0, very little can be learned on how this trend can benefit B2B marketing. Most, if not all, examples and case studies focus on B2C. I think there is potential for Web 2.0 in B2B marketing and PR, but maybe not through FB, Twitter, YouTube and the likes.

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  • 19 JULY 2009
    Cristene Gonzalez-Wertz
    Lead CRM Researcher, Instiute for Businss Value
    IBM
    Pennsylvania, USA

    ...It’s not just about listening, which is the right starting point. It’s about engagement, it’s about allowing people to take content from a site and make it their own....

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    Cristene Gonzalez-Wertz
    Lead CRM Researcher, Instiute for Businss Value
    IBM
    Pennsylvania, USA

    Again, we are oversimplifying the situation. While nothing in the framework is objectionble, it does not hint at the bigger issues that companies will face, especially in the move to 3.0. It’s not just about listening, which is the right starting point. It’s about engagement, it’s about allowing people to take content from a site and make it their own. It’s about things we can find trivial—like tagging and taxonomies—that can, within short order, provide the ability to value content and its organization. We need to get beyond the obvious and start focusing on models that will deliver value.

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  • 19 JULY 2009
    David Butter
    David Butter Consulting
    London, UK

    Good marketers have always followed a LEAD model. The difference now is that marketing is no longer a silo function, but an integrated, co-creative, transparent catalyst for the dialogue between customers and organizations....

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    David Butter
    David Butter Consulting
    London, UK

    Good marketers have always followed a LEAD model. The difference now is that marketing is no longer a silo function, but an integrated, co-creative, transparent catalyst for the dialogue between customers and organizations. The challenge is to manage the myriad of moving parts, to accept the loss of control, and to go with the flow. But while building viral, virtual interactions, marketers need more than ever real-time physical, face-to face interactions with customers and stakeholders to align resources and to make quality decisions.

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  • 19 JULY 2009
    Philip de Wulf
    Managing Fellow
    Psilogy
    Antwerp, Belgium

    ...The key challenge for marketeers remain the same: distill the insights to build your brand on and decide where you want the conversation to develop towards, only then... participate.

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    Philip de Wulf
    Managing Fellow
    Psilogy
    Antwerp, Belgium

    Conversations bring insights and marketers can no longer control conversations. What’s new about that? This has always been the case, only now we can see, track, and measure it because the conversations are digitized. The key challenge for marketeers remain the same: distill the insights to build your brand on and decide where you want the conversation to develop towards, only then... participate.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Grant Ricketts
    Partner
    Razor Learning
    Berkeley, CA USA

    ...the important point is two-way interaction. It’s a new technique in a new medium. Not one-way PR and not one-way feedback coming back (as with traditional consumer research)....

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    Grant Ricketts
    Partner
    Razor Learning
    Berkeley, CA USA

    Two thoughts. One, I agree this article doesn’t get to ‘Web 3.0’ though perhaps the authors are trying to introduce their own notion of such. But, to date, Web 3.0 has been more about 3D and virtual worlds. Two, the important point is two-way interaction. It’s a new technique in a new medium. Not one-way PR and not one-way feedback coming back (as with traditional consumer research). It’s virutal dialogue and that’s the way it should be managed. Which means dedicating some of the right people to interact in this manner. There’s a new marketing management practice to evolve out of this.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Ganesh Santhanam
    Functional Consultant
    TCS
    Chennai, India

    ...What we see in the market place is lot of excitment around web 2.0 & beyond but when it calls for committing dollars, companies shy away with investment on traditional projects.

    .
    Ganesh Santhanam
    Functional Consultant
    TCS
    Chennai, India

    I do agree with the fact that it is too early to gain acceptance for investments in web 2.0 & beyond concepts. For now, organisations are evaluating technologies in a small way without any major commitments for reasons such as difficulty in quantifying benefits in dollar terms and establishing a strong business case for an implementation and also to establish return on investment metrics. What we see in the market place is lot of excitment around web 2.0 & beyond but when it calls for committing dollars, companies shy away with investment on traditional projects.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Erick Mott
    Silicon Valley Entrepreneur & Executive
    creatorbase blog
    Palo Alto, CA USA

    ...Social media and networking are part of the world we live in — there is no turning back...

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    Erick Mott
    Silicon Valley Entrepreneur & Executive
    creatorbase blog
    Palo Alto, CA USA

    Good article and comments; thanks all. Web 2.0 channels and tools now play a significant role in how people and businesses observe, collaborate, innovate, and respond to needs and opportunities. Social media and networking are part of the world we live in — there is no turning back because Web 2.0 is an extension of Internet and mobility experience, value and expectations.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Bikash Mathur
    EVP
    Polaris
    London, UK

    The reality is that Web 3.0 is going to lead an “outside-in” transformation for a lot of companies, provided they develop the systems to listen....

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    Bikash Mathur
    EVP
    Polaris
    London, UK

    The reality is that Web 3.0 is going to lead an “outside-in” transformation for a lot of companies, provided they develop the systems to listen. Customers are definitely in a postiton to provide meaningful and critical insights into products features, quality, and selling propositions. I believe that this, in turn, will bring about much faster changes to new product development and supply chain management than we have ever seen in the past. Timely article McKQ!

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Sameer Rawal
    Knowledge Management Lead
    TCS
    Mumbai, India

    ...Consumers in non-HiTech industries are still not so Web savvy to constitue a major consumer segment, especially in developing countries which have young populations...

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    Sameer Rawal
    Knowledge Management Lead
    TCS
    Mumbai, India

    The wisdom of crowds is a dual edged sword and companies would do well to identify areas where this would work (for example, in product improvements) and where it would not (strategy shifts). The media is different and the crowds more aggressive. The rate of flow of information is mind-boggling and, sadly, unpredictable. Some great stuff has fizzled out quickly and mediocre stuff afloat forever. Given this, control and manipulation of converstaions and content is more of a matter of luck. Consumers in non-HiTech industries are still not so Web savvy to constitue a major consumer segment, especially in developing countries which have young populations (the very type Web 2.0 managers seem to address). This paradox will sustain in the near future.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Luke Harvey-Palmer
    Chief Engagement Officer
    Buzzle
    Sydney, Australia

    ...Until corporations trust employees, have nothing to hide, and genuinely want to connect with consumers, then nothing will change, and web 2.0 tools (and philosophies) will not be adopted....

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    Luke Harvey-Palmer
    Chief Engagement Officer
    Buzzle
    Sydney, Australia

    People trust Corporations 74% less than they did last year, and 87% of people say they would never buy anything from a company they did not trust! And now for the real clanger: CEO’s are the least trusted source of information when seeking the truth about a company! (source: Edelman Trust Index March 2009).

    Why is this relevant to Web 2.0? Simple. The landscape for business has changed, and it wasn’t technology that changed it! Web 2.0 was never about technology, it was about consumers and their demands to be consulted, involved, and trusted. Until corporations understand this, forget about using tools like Twitter or Facebook or blogging. When I asked Ben Self (Obama’s digital media strategist) what made the difference in the Obama campaign and the digital strategy he responded simply “the leadership.” Barack, David (Plouffe and Axelrod), and Ben all kept it simple—get to know as many people as possible (hence their plans to collect emails). Web 2.0 tools just made it easy to do this.

    So what is my message? Until corporations trust employees, have nothing to hide, and genuinely want to connect with consumers, then nothing will change, and web 2.0 tools (and philosophies) will not be adopted. Those organisations that build a culture around consultation, involvement, and collaboration will find no challenges with 3.0. My simple advice to organisations: forget about prospects and customers and clients. Instead, adopt an attitude of ‘friends with budgets’ and 2.0 and 3.0 will be nothing more than new versions of the same thing!

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Pranam C S
    Software Developer
    IBM
    Bangalore, India

    ...the ideas mentioned above have limitations. Web 2.0 stuff gathers momentum initially and then looses its fizz....

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    Pranam C S
    Software Developer
    IBM
    Bangalore, India

    This was an interesting article and at IBM we have been actively doing the ideas mentioned here. But, the ideas mentioned above have limitations. Web 2.0 stuff gathers momentum initially and then looses its fizz. Blogs, Facebook, Orkut, etc. help only to a certain extent. If the topic under discussion in any of these Web 2.0 sites is generic then continuity is better but the moment the discussion becomes specific the fizz is lost. So, while the article states a four-step method to help the end user, I feel it is passe and doesn’t scale up.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Bud Phillips
    COO
    INM United
    Richmond, VA USA

    ...Companies that are experimenting with Web 2.0 will also need to adjust their thinking to account for the mobile experience...

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    Bud Phillips
    COO
    INM United
    Richmond, VA USA

    Web 2.0 as a virtual conversation and word-of-mouth opinion sharing is a must leverage “place” for all enterprises. While it is not mentioned in the article, I find fascinating the coming explosion of true “mobile, in the moment, perhaps driven by impulse” conversations and recommendations that are going to be enabled by smartphones (IPhone as the leading example). Companies that are experimenting with Web 2.0 will also need to adjust their thinking to account for the mobile experience, as opposed to either the online/laptop experience, or the texting experience. Location targeting, ad hoc social networking, co-created services/products, and real time FAQ’s, offers, and promotions will be altered by the possibility of the customer acting in the moment. In fact, it offers a real integration of Web 2.0 and face-to-face communication.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Andrew Alexander
    Managing Director
    Interknow Pty Ptd
    Australia

    Having a presence just for the sake of “keeping up with the Jones” is a big mistake...

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    Andrew Alexander
    Managing Director
    Interknow Pty Ptd
    Australia

    Having a presence just for the sake of “keeping up with the Jones” is a big mistake, you need to have a firm outcome in mind for what you want to achieve or else you have no target. Engaging with customers in identifying prioritised product development is a tangible and relevant objective. Just gaining awareness or market exposure that doesn’t simultaneously deliver a positive message is dangerous.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Michael Whitlow
    EVP
    CRT/tanaka
    Richmond, VA USA

    ...I agree with another of the commenters that supplementing Listen with data is useful. I’d go beyond the search and site analytics to create a way to test...

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    Michael Whitlow
    EVP
    CRT/tanaka
    Richmond, VA USA

    LEAD (listen, experiment, apply, develop) is a good process explanation. I agree with another of the commenters that supplementing Listen with data is useful. I’d go beyond the search and site analytics to create a way to test qualitatively and quantitatively on the virtual run. Avid fans and rabid opponents can sometimes cloud the importance of a conversation thread. While we shouldn’t disregard any legit stakeholder, it’s probably more important to test repeatedly to assess the level of promoters and detractors for the organization and their points of pain or pleasure. Doing so and adding the power of good intelligence to your side of the conversation can be very powerful.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Diederik Klaassen
    owner / 2.0 consultant
    Southparc
    Netherlands

    It is still a low number of organisations that have implemented 2.0 in their Web or internally, so talking here about 3.0 seems to be too much....

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    Diederik Klaassen
    owner / 2.0 consultant
    Southparc
    Netherlands

    It is still a low number of organisations that have implemented 2.0 in their Web or internally, so talking here about 3.0 seems to be too much. I believe that the vast majority needs to re-invent themselves and that will take as long as cultural shifts do in general. And more likely a lot will not survive and will never reach the next step called 2.0.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Jonathan Crabtree
    Network Navigator
    Geelong, Australia

    ...So read up on game theory and psychology and realise the revolution has already happened. Marketers are fast becoming obsolete. It’s time to get real and follow the LEADER!

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    Jonathan Crabtree
    Network Navigator
    Geelong, Australia

    Hi Donna. Thank you for your conversation starter. May I suggest LEAD becomes LEADER? Let me explain. Web 1.0 was about websites being digital brochures created by sellers that had the production tools. Web 2.0 is about consumers producing content aimed at egocentric social satisfaction. For the consumer, the barriers of entry to content production have disappeared due to the arrival of open source free solutions. IT departments and ad agencies simply haven’t caught on yet! Some regard Web 2.0 as two way dialogue between producer and consumer. You know, B2C and C2B via blogs forums and carefully controlled, moderated environments.

    Perhaps the phenomena Chief Marketing Officers don’t yet get, is that maybe 99 percent of Web 2.0 is C2C and B is about as welcome as that TV commercial you’ve seen 67 times interupting your ‘me-time’ or worse, the telemarketing call during dinner! Cs expect their voice to be censored by Bs and they also disbelieve what Bs say about what they sell. Yet Cs do listen and interract with other Cs about their experiences with Bs.

    So what about Web 3.0? In my scenario, it’s simply marketing departments being outsourced to crowd-controllers before the brand looting takes place. In the information economy the C will find the B if they choose to, on their own terms and B had better get used to living up to the cliche the customer is king!

    Web sites in a Web 4.0 world will no longer exist. Content will simply be embedded data plugged into C’s online neural network. The Web site will get smaller and more focussed as content such as reviews become more relevant. So under Web 4.0, B had better plan for Widgets 4.0! Whether it’s Open ID or Facebook Connect, the goal is for B to have the ability to embed their content and sales process into the C’ experience of choice. Which brings me back to LEADER, Donna! You see, the extra ‘E’ currently stands for ‘Engage’ and for the cluey, it stands for ‘Embed’. The ‘R’ simply stands for ‘Recruit’. Embed is the simple phenomena of cut, paste and spread. Recruit is the process of engaging brand advocates to become sales agents in a micro-payment C2C environment. It’s no longer about hardware and it’s no longer about software. The world is morphing towards experience, emotion, and the meshing on social, financial, and neural networks. So read up on game theory and psychology and realise the revolution has already happened. Marketers are fast becoming obsolete. It’s time to get real and follow the LEADER!

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Michael Porter
    Principal
    Perficient
    Orem, UT USA

    ...I talk to many clients who say, “We want a Web 2.0 site so we can connect with our customers better and be more cool. We usually tell them that they need to stop and think first....

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    Michael Porter
    Principal
    Perficient
    Orem, UT USA

    An interesting, and I think valid approach. I talk to many clients who say, “We want a Web 2.0 site so we can connect with our customers better and be more cool (with it, up with the times, add your term). We usually tell them that they need to stop and think first. Figure out what are the technologies out there? What are their business goals? Define how they can apply the Web 2.0 approach to meet their needs, then take a baby step to get it going. Regarding the approach of Web 3.0; I’m not sure what it’s going to be called but when major vendors like IBM, Oracle, and Microsoft are well along in incorporating these technologies in some of their key products, you know that Web 2.0 has become mainstream.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Mike Harris
    Principal
    Harris Consulting LLC
    San Diego, CA USA

    ...Once the mystery is driven out and the effectiveness established, large corporate and SMB clients will be purchasing fully-integrated marketing tools and platforms like there’s no tomorrow.

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    Mike Harris
    Principal
    Harris Consulting LLC
    San Diego, CA USA

    In the marketing world there’s a lot of debate about what’s best: advertising, PR, or social media. It’s a moot argument because advertising, PR, and social media platforms are merging so quickly now. Vendors will have little choice because clients know that the most ubiquitous, least expensive platform for all three is the Internet. The trajectory for a fully integrated marketing platform, which includes the three mentioned plus dozens more, will look similar to that of personal computing. Once the mystery is driven out and the effectiveness established, large corporate and SMB clients will be purchasing fully-integrated marketing tools and platforms like there’s no tomorrow.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Robert Jacobson
    Principal
    Bluefire Consulting
    Tucson, AZ USA

    The unrelentingly instrumental quality of this admonition—not a conversation, which would be genuinely 3.0—is dismaying....

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    Robert Jacobson
    Principal
    Bluefire Consulting
    Tucson, AZ USA

    The unrelentingly instrumental quality of this admonition—not a conversation, which would be genuinely 3.0—is dismaying. Using technology to Tell Consumers All About Me isn’t the point of 3.0 thinking. Nor is eavesdropping on social networks.

    The point of 3.0 is to learn from all stakeholders in the company, including critics and customers. This dovetails nicely with current thinking about innovation and co-creation.

    The 3.0 mindshift is “transformational,” meaning that executives, managers, and employees all advocate and accept change throughout the system, including personal change among themselves—is a quantum leap from the traditional marketing approach, here duded up with technology buzzwords.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Jack Bloom
    President
    Alpha Capital Corp.
    New York, NY USA

    ...This is really an extension of Management By Walking Around but now it includes the Internet.

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    Jack Bloom
    President
    Alpha Capital Corp.
    New York, NY USA

    This article represents an excellent overview of handling web 2.0 issues. Although not very expensive, these relative small web investments pay off in much greater consumer experience and a smoother marketing campaign. Without these investments, your Web presence may be left to the few people who complain loudly for their own reasons. As a company owner, executive, or consultant, I always Google my own company, follow on-line conversations about my product, call the front-desk of our office, walk into stores, check if our name and address is properly listed on-line and in 411, etc. on a regular basis to see what the consumer is experiencing and when action is needed, I take it. This is really an extension of Management By Walking Around but now it includes the Internet.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Kamini Banga
    Founder
    Dimensions
    London

    ...In a complete turnaround, companies are beginning to concede all power to the consumer. But cocreation is about balance and a dialogue, not about power struggles....

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    Kamini Banga
    Founder
    Dimensions
    London

    Like with democracy, one person one vote, Internet provides voice to every individual with an email id. But the truth is that not everybody votes. And so with Web 2.0, not everybody makes their voice heard. First there is the question of all those consumers in markets where Internet penetration may not be substantial for some time. And then it takes a certain kind of consumer to use the medium to voice their opinion. One negative comment can sometimes upset the image balance of a company disproportionately. And there is a tendency amongst all of us to discuss the unpleasant and unsavoury more than the good even if the latter far outweighs the former. The author suggests that Web 2.0 is a powerful tool where somehow the power of balance is with the consumer. If earlier it was with the marketers, there is a belief that they (mis)used it to their advantage at the expense of the consumer. How can we make sure that the consumers, now with power balance tipped in their favour, will not do the same. How does one arrive at an equitable balance of power? In a complete turnaround, companies are beginning to concede all power to the consumer. But cocreation is about balance and a dialogue, not about power struggles. Web 2.0 is only a tool, are we expecting too much from it?

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Oier Marigil
    Research assistant
    Innovandis
    Donostia, Spain

    Even though the examples are OK, I think this article remains in the surface. It could have been acceptable two years ago...

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    Oier Marigil
    Research assistant
    Innovandis
    Donostia, Spain

    Even though the examples are OK, I think this article remains in the surface. It could have been acceptable two years ago, but useless for anyone in the management world that haven’t been in a corporate ‘cave’ for the last 3 years. I hope the next on the series goes deeper.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    John Baker
    Owner
    eTechSuccess
    Cary, NC USA

    I enjoyed the essay but I do not think it fits the title of “Managing beyond Web 2.0”....

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    John Baker
    Owner
    eTechSuccess
    Cary, NC USA

    I enjoyed the essay but I do not think it fits the title of “Managing beyond Web 2.0”. It is much closer to “How to succeed in Web 2.0 Business”. All the advice is in adopting the new business paradigm and technology. When whatever people call Web 3.0 comes along then this material would also apply (with different case studies) to that era of adoption.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Al Bredenberg
    Senior Researcher
    ILO Institute
    Fairfield, CT USA

    Very interesting to see the MyAlli example. It is indeed a very active community. As it happens, right now we are researching the involvement of pharmaceutical companies with Web 2.0 media....

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    Al Bredenberg
    Senior Researcher
    ILO Institute
    Fairfield, CT USA

    Very interesting to see the MyAlli example. It is indeed a very active community. As it happens, right now we are researching the involvement of pharmaceutical companies with Web 2.0 media. Just yesterday I found an Alli blog and found that it had no posts since September 2008! So I was pleased and surprised to learn about MyAlli. The inactive Alli Connect blog does seem like a paradox, though.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Arif Kamruddin
    Student
    Columbia University
    New York, NY USA

    Social networking can indeed prove to be a double-edged sword for many organizations, as the writer of this article demonstrates. Does it, however, really give companies that edge in the playing field?...

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    Arif Kamruddin
    Student
    Columbia University
    New York, NY USA

    Social networking can indeed prove to be a double-edged sword for many organizations, as the writer of this article demonstrates. Does it, however, really give companies that edge in the playing field?

    (1) Social networking relies mostly on ‘pull’ rather than ‘push’. Consider Starbucks, which boasts an active Facebook presence. People most likely to visit the Starbucks fan page are either those who value its products to a great extent, or those who wish to air their greivances against the product or the company. Hence company publicity through social networking, I would argue, attracts individuals at the extreme ends of the continuum and doesn’t do much to sway the middle ground—those that do not exhibit tremendous amounts of brand loyalty or are indifferent to the product.

    (2) Despite the tremendous popularity that social networking has experienced in the past few years, we notice that the predominant demographic hasn’t budged much—most users are still between the ages of ten and thirty five, with interest in social networking mostly tapering off in the last five to eight years of the bracket. Within this bracket, the time spent on social networking sites also tends to taper off in the later years. Therefore, as one’s earning potential increases, one’s Web presence and vulnerability to attraction by companies through social networking sites will decrease. This begs the question, would it not be more beneficial for companies to focus their publicity through traditional ‘bricks and mortar’ routes?

    (3) The most important critique of the approach, I would think, comes from the emerging markets area. While the average customer in the developed world are web-savvy, unfortunately many consumers in the developing world have yet to reach the point where e-commerce, or even the simple act of Web research prior to making purchase decisions, has gained traction. I refer to the typical middle-class consumer in India, Pakistan, Cambodia, or Laos—who earns less than $10,000 a year—a prime demographic for companies with international ambitions who have seen demand in home markets decline over the years, such as British American Tobacco, Philip Morris, and Coca Cola. So, ultimately, while social networking does indeed have great potential, a thorough cost-benefit analysis should be conducted prior to embarking on a heavy Web presence, and of course, a company should never lose sight of its target market, demographic, or geography.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Song Bac Toh
    Director of Product Management
    Formerly newScale, Inc
    San Mateo, CA USA

    A timely article. Some companies seem to look for a one-stop solution of having someone come in and address this “social media problem” as if it is just a PR function....

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    Song Bac Toh
    Director of Product Management
    Formerly newScale, Inc
    San Mateo, CA USA

    A timely article. Some companies seem to look for a one-stop solution of having someone come in and address this “social media problem” as if it is just a PR function. What they need to realize is that their product or service owners need to be deeply engaged in this process. The company as a whole needs to converse with its customers and community at large through this new medium. Sounded like GSK did the latter according to the case cited in the article. Good for them.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Timothy Johnson
    President, Chief Creative Officer
    Coactive Brand Lab
    Houston, TX USA

    I agree with your overall premise, but it seems to me this article misses something important....

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    Timothy Johnson
    President, Chief Creative Officer
    Coactive Brand Lab
    Houston, TX USA

    I agree with your overall premise (...focusing on the fundamental aspects of the consumers’ online behavior— not just current best practices...), but it seems to me this article misses something important. While Web 2.0 changes the channel, it doesn’t change what people really want. They want to do business with companies they trust and like. So the answer to connecting through social media is less about the tactics of using the channel, and more about being a company people care about. The web makes it easier for people to express outrage over poor service or insensitivity, and it’s true you have to be prepared to respond in the medium du jour. Web 2.0 is kind of like a giant game of “Gossip.” Nonetheless, the problem is not the medium. The problem is the intention of the company and the value it places on having an honest relationship with its constituents. Companies who are worth trusting are trusted. Those who are not are eventually found out.

    Occasional missteps are usually forgiven, and it has always been this way. The chief advantage or disadvantage of the new media is speed. If you have time to make a lot of phone calls, send out press releases, ingratiate your company to editors, writers, and consumer advocates, you can head off a firestorm if you screw up. Firestorms move faster on the Web. But the fundamentals are the same. Be honest, offer differentiated value, don’t get greedy, don’t look to your competitors for cues to validate your worth, and don’t take your customers for granted. Align your brand behavior, brand expression, and brand experience around a true and valuable idea, and you’ll be trusted. Learn to leverage the medium, but don’t get fooled by it. Truth is truth no matter where you tell it.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Lowell Wallace
    Managing Partner
    Marketing Valuation Partners LLC
    Chicago, IL USA

    One of the biggest problems that companies face with social media is the same one the general public faces: the rapid onset of boredom....

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    Lowell Wallace
    Managing Partner
    Marketing Valuation Partners LLC
    Chicago, IL USA

    One of the biggest problems that companies face with social media is the same one the general public faces: the rapid onset of boredom. More and more studies are pointing to the fact that participants in social media communities, after an initial burst of frequent views and posts, quickly go inactive. This was painfully pointed out during the recent D7 All Things Digital conference when the founders of Twitter were questioned about surveys showing more that 50% of Twitter users use it less than once a month. The same statistics can be found for other social media such as Facebook.

    To avoid similar boredom with the corporate audience, companies seeking to leverage a social media component of their marketing must first identify very clear objectives. They need not be numeric, but they must be clear. Without them, social media programs become flights of technological fancy that are off-strategy and budgetary black holes. As such, their end result is likely to be accelerating the trip of the CMO toward the exit. Similarly, in many small and medium-sized companies, social media programs are short-lived, attention getting explorations designed to convince internal audiences that something is being done to market to customers. More often than not it is an increasingly wasteful corporate toy because the mission was not clearly defined. The catalyst was probably a call from the corner office saying, “We have to be on Twitter.” The response should have been, “Why?”

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Sajith Sahadevan
    Program Manager, Portals & Collaboration
    Ericsson Silicon Valley
    San Jose, CA USA

    ...As far as the company is concerned, just by observing these online interactions, ‘listening’ to your customers talk to each other about their pain points and such, gives a lot of insight...

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    Sajith Sahadevan
    Program Manager, Portals & Collaboration
    Ericsson Silicon Valley
    San Jose, CA USA

    One of the ways companies leverage this online customer experience is through customer ‘communities.’ Companies, especially in Silicon Valley, build out and maintain extensive online customer communities, wherein the company’s customers can come together, connect with each other, share best practices, access knowledge bases, get help from other customers, share experiences etc. As far as the company is concerned, just by observing these online interactions, ‘listening’ to your customers talk to each other about their pain points and such, gives a lot of insight into customers and what‘s on their minds. Then they take these inputs and insights back into the company and use them. Since Ericsson is a global organization operating in over a 100 countires, we have derived immense value from these customer communities.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Boyd Neil
    Senior Vice President
    Hill & Knowlton Canada
    Canada

    ...A more fruitful avenue of pursuit would be assessing the sociological shifts driven by social media that are creating new relationship dynamics around goods, services, and, of course, public discourse.

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    Boyd Neil
    Senior Vice President
    Hill & Knowlton Canada
    Canada

    Aren’t we already at this stage: “What will happen when these consumer experiences are much more interesting than anything your marketers have put up on the Web?” In fact, much of this essay is about fairly basic Web 2.0 steps. Many companies (most of them big brands like HP, Dell, Intel, McDonald’s) have gone much deeper in building customer and stakeholder relationships through social networks. A more fruitful avenue of pursuit would be assessing the sociological shifts driven by social media that are creating new relationship dynamics around goods, services, and, of course, public discourse.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Satyabroto Banerji
    CEO
    SafetyBrigade
    Mumbai, Maharashtra India

    ...The marketing function must shed its baggage of past success: advertising gurus first please!

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    Satyabroto Banerji
    CEO
    SafetyBrigade
    Mumbai, Maharashtra India

    G3 telephony presents design challenges because handset screens are so much smaller than with personal computers, to say nothing of billboards. Segments formed in the days of print and outdoor media will coalesce, destroying some brands, while creating others. Communicators from multi-lingual markets such as India will have a head-start since content has to transcend dated language barriers. Consumers will not forgive the kind of external-marketing hyperbole, in which icons from the worlds of entertainment and sports have indulged in the pre-Web 2.0 days. The marketing function must shed its baggage of past success: advertising gurus first please!

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Andrew Walmsley
    Founder
    i-level
    United Kingdom

    Very interesing piece. In the listening phase, companies should build out their listening tools to include data from search and site analytics and combine this with social media...

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    Andrew Walmsley
    Founder
    i-level
    United Kingdom

    Very interesing piece. In the listening phase, companies should build out their listening tools to include data from search and site analytics and combine this with social media—this helps to build a sense of priorities. Also, it’s dangerous to rely on a single tool for buzz monitoring, none in our experience cover the whole market, and there are dozens available, both free and paid. Finally, don’t rely simply on technology—buzz tools struggle to deal with irony, sarcasm, slang, etc., and this can really throw off the metrics.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Luis Martinez Funes
    Social Media Director
    Mexico

    The key phrase in this new era is: LISTEN and DO NOT CONTROL. What a lot of companies and managers are failing to understand...

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    Luis Martinez Funes
    Social Media Director
    Mexico

    The key phrase in this new era is: LISTEN and DO NOT CONTROL. What a lot of companies and managers are failing to understand—or perhaps they simply just don‘t like and don‘t accept—is that these conversations cannot be controlled by the company. As this article well puts it, you have to listen and engage those conversations in a non-threatening way so you can get heard and your products and brand image enhanced and appreciated.

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  • 17 JULY 2009
    Marylene Delbourg-Delphis
    CEO
    Cilantro
    Palo Alto, CA USA

    You are completely right to mention that return-on-investment metrics for social media are still in the early stages. However...

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    Marylene Delbourg-Delphis
    CEO
    Cilantro
    Palo Alto, CA USA

    You are completely right to mention that return-on-investment metrics for social media are still in the early stages. However, I do encourage you to take a look at ObjectiveMarketer. Very young company, but the product is already in very good shape and does provide the ability to analyze in details the components and the efficiency of conversional marketing.

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