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What health systems can learn from Kaiser Permanente: An interview with Hal Wolf

By closely integrating care delivery, Kaiser Permanente delivers high-quality, cost-effective treatment. One of its senior executives outlines its approach.

Kaiser Permanente (KP), the largest nonprofit health plan in the United States, is renowned for the tight integration of its clinical services. KP closely coordinates primary, secondary, and hospital care; places a strong emphasis on prevention; and extensively uses care pathways and electronic medical records. By doing so, it provides its 8.7 million members and patients with high-quality, cost-effective care.

That KP can achieve such tight integration and strong results is especially remarkable in that it is not one organization but several cooperating entities (see sidebar, “Kaiser Permanente at a glance”). All these entities share a common vision: to deliver coordinated, comprehensive health care that keeps patients as healthy as possible.

 

To find out what other health systems can learn from KP’s experience, the Quarterly recently spoke with Harold “Hal” Wolf III, senior vice president and chief operating officer of the Permanente Federation, the national umbrella organization for the Permanente Medical Groups (the physician component of KP). Ben Richardson, a principal in McKinsey’s London office, conducted the conversation.

 

The Quarterly: What are the benefits of integrated care?

Hal Wolf: KP carefully coordinates the work done by primary care physicians, specialists, hospitals, pharmacies, laboratories, and others. This approach offers several advantages. It improves care quality, makes care delivery more convenient for members, and increases communication among all the people providing care. It also enables us to find efficiencies that reduce costs, improve or maintain quality, and allow for innovation.

We believe strongly in evidence-based medicine, and we are always looking for innovative ways of delivering care. When we find an innovation that is working well, we want to propagate it as best practice throughout our organization.

The Quarterly: How do you provide integrated care?

Hal Wolf: We operate in nine states and the District of Columbia, and our operations are slightly different in each area. In all cases, however, we integrate care as closely as possible. In California, for example, we provide members with an end-to-end experience; we own and operate a large number of clinics, hospitals, laboratories, and pharmacies. At all our clinics, patients can receive primary and secondary care; at most, they can also undergo laboratory and imaging tests and get prescriptions filled. At some clinics, they can even undergo same-day outpatient surgery. This way, we take care of most of our patients’ health care needs in a single facility.

Our primary and secondary care services are closely intertwined in California. Our primary care services include everything from basic health checkups to disease-management programs. Those programs include appropriate specialist consultations when needed, but primary care physicians remain in charge of patients’ overall care. Even if patients need to be hospitalized, care delivery is seamless because all physicians and other health professionals have access to KP HealthConnect, our electronic medical record database.

In Colorado, our services are similar, but we don’t own our own hospitals. Nevertheless, we have extremely close relationships with our partner hospitals. For example, the physicians who take care of our patients at these hospitals are part of the Colorado Permanente Medical Group and have full access to KP HealthConnect. As a result, they are able to view a complete medical history for their patients, and we are able to compile a complete record of what happens to our patients while they are hospitalized. Because KP HealthConnect updates itself in real time, the records are never out of date. If a patient leaves a clinic and drives to a hospital, the physicians at the hospital can see the clinic records as soon as the patient arrives.

The Quarterly: What are the organizational enablers that allow you to deliver integrated care?

Hal Wolf: Integrated care requires everyone involved in the patient’s care to work as a team. Each person—whether delivering primary care, secondary care, pharmacy management, or something else—must ask: what are our goals for this patient? What opportunities do we have to achieve a better outcome? In other words, each team member must focus not only on the particular treatment he or she is providing but also on the entire care pathway. If this type of integrated approach is used with every patient, then KP is meeting its goal, which is to improve the overall health of the community, one person at a time.

The fact that we are a payor as well as a provider helps in this regard. As a payor, we can make certain that the right incentives are in place to help ensure that all team members work together in harmony.

Another key enabler of integrated care is a good IT system. Without one, it is impossible to gather and share information, track outcomes, or systematically identify innovations thatimprove patient care. However, a good IT system is not sufficient on its own to ensure that care is integrated.

The Quarterly: Please tell us more about how KP works with hospitals it does not own.

Hal Wolf: We view our relationship with these hospitals as a partnership, and we work closely with them to ensure that their quality and performance goals match ours. We rely on our partner hospitals to serve our members, and so we have a responsibility to help ensure their success. For example, we’ll investigate whether we can do anything to help our partner hospitals meet their quality standards. Often, we are deeply integrated into the hospitals’ operations because their clinical departments are led by Permanente physicians. Of course, we also track hospital costs—cost per day, cost per procedure, etc. This allows us to negotiate the rates we pay to the hospitals and helps ensure we are being billed appropriately.

The Quarterly: How do you develop your care pathways? And how do you support their use?

Hal Wolf: The care pathways are developed by multidisciplinary teams using evidence-based medicine, and they are one of the fundamental ways in which we integrate care. Roles and accountabilities are clarified in the care pathways. For example, our physicians provide only part of patient care; the remainder is delivered by nurses, pharmacists, and other team members, following the pathways’ protocols. KP HealthConnect facilitates the care pathways because it includes documentation templates, alerts, reminders, and other clinical-decision support capabilities. That is the power of KP HealthConnect—the ability to bring evidence to the point of care.

The Quarterly: What incentives do you give to physicians to encourage them to adhere to care pathways?

Hal Wolf: Permanente physicians have a culture of providing the best care for patients, and thus incentives are only one of many levers we use to improve care. Our physicians’ incomes are primarily salary based, but in some cases we use small financial incentives to reward quality performance. The strongest incentive is the performance data we share with our physicians. Performance data allow them to see the results of their actions and to identify ways in which they can further improve patient care.

The Quarterly: How do you handle booking and capacity management?

Hal Wolf: Members can schedule appointments in several ways: online, by telephoning a call center, or while talking to a physician. We try hard to make sure that same-day appointments are available when necessary. We have learned that it is crucially important that the booking system leave a certain number of slots open each day. Of course, we also assume that a certain number of cancellations will occur. Figuring out the right algorithm to ensure that the clinics are neither overbooked nor underbooked has taken time and effort. At KP, we use a central booking system in each region; we monitor utilization at each clinic and tweak our algorithms as necessary.

The Quarterly: Do all the clinics operate under the same governance and decision-making framework?

Hal Wolf: Our clinics operate in a similar way most of the time. That’s important, because patient care must be applied consistently to achieve good outcomes.

Yet we have to bear in mind that each clinic is slightly different from the others. After all, the clinics were built differently at different times, the physicians and nurses may have somewhat different capabilities, and the patient mixes may be different—one clinic, for example, may treat a lot of children, whereas another may have a high volume of elderly patients. We want to maximize the patient experience at each clinic, and thus it’s important that we not be too rigid about workflows and systems. The clinics have room for flexibility and innovation.

The Quarterly: How do you monitor performance?

Hal Wolf: The IT system is critical; without it, we would not be able to gauge the performance of our clinics and physicians or identify differences among them. For example, our IT system allows us to identify when a clinic has made a change to a care pathway and what results the change produced. If it enabled the clinic to lower costs while maintaining care quality or to hold costs steady while improving outcomes, we want to know about it; we may well want our other clinics to implement the change. A good IT system can also help us determine whether a change that increased costs was justified by the improved outcomes achieved.

The IT system also enables us to track physician performance on a regular basis. The physicians sit down as a group to pick the targets they want to achieve and the metrics that will be monitored. We then collect the data and share the results with them—each of them can see his or her performance. We periodically repeat the process of target and metric selection to ensure that our treatment approaches remain up to date.

Of course, physician performance cannot be assessed in isolation. For example, our best physicians tend to get the most complicated cases, but this means that they tend to see fewer patients, on average, than other physicians do. Our performance-management system has to take this into account. Also, physicians provide only one part of patient care, especially for people with chronic disease; nurses, pharmacists, and other clinicians are also involved. Usually, a wide range of information must be considered to determine why a specific outcome occurred. In Colorado, for example, we use balanced scorecards to gauge the performance of each department. These scorecards look at the care delivered by each team member, not just physicians. They also gauge member satisfaction, access, service, and more. The scorecards are developed with input from physicians, the other clinicians engaged in patient care, and the health plan—the payor side ofour organization.

The Quarterly: How do your physicians use the IT system?

Hal Wolf: KP HealthConnect enables our physicians to view a detailed history for each patient: when was the last time the patient had a checkup? What test results did she receive? How is she doing on her treatment regimen? All medical care is documented in KP HealthConnect. KP HealthConnect also flags problems. As an example, if patients fail to come in for scheduled appointments or to renew their prescriptions, the information is highlighted in the medical record.

The Quarterly: Have you been able to use the information in KP HealthConnect in other ways?

Hal Wolf: Our IT system was originally designed to provide information about individual patients, but our physicians quickly realized that real value could be derived from aggregating the patient data into disease registries. Cardiovascular disease and diabetes were among the first registries we created. Today, we have more than 50 registries. These registries enable all team members to determine how well their patients are doing in comparison with other KP patients, as well as how well their patients’ outcomes stack up against national and international benchmarks.

When we started these registries, we began by tracking outcomes and co-morbidities. Over time, however, the registries have grown more sophisticated. We can now determine how even small changes in care pathways can have a significant impact on outcomes, and we can study patients with specific combinations of co-morbidities to identify the best treatment approaches for them.

We also use the registries to help patientsimprove their health. In Colorado, for example, we have developed the Collaborative Cardiac Care Service for patients who have suffered acute coronary events (ACEs). As soon as these patients are hospitalized, they are identified and entered into the ACE registry and assigned a nurse manager. The patients are encouraged to participate in a wide range of follow-up services, including cardiac rehabilitation, exercise therapy, psychosocial support, and risk-factor modification—smoking cessation, for example. The nurse manager ensures that care is coordinated as the patients transition back to their homes, that they are taking their medications as prescribed, and that they undergo all appropriate follow-up tests. Responsibility for the patients is then transferred to clinical pharmacists, who follow them long term to monitor their therapy and adjust it as necessary. The results have been dramatic. The percentage of patients with LDL1 levels within the target range has more than tripled (exhibit). More important, the mortality rate has dropped by 76 percent.

The Quarterly: We’ve talked a lot about how physicians, nurses, and others interact with patients at KP. What role do patients themselves play?

Hal Wolf: The health of our members is our primary focus and our reason for being, and so the care experience we deliver is tailored to their needs. We also recognize that our services—even our best care pathways—will be unsuccessful unless our members take active responsibility for their own health. Thus, we have to build a strong relationship of trust with them. This is one of the reasons we work so hard to ensure that care delivery is seamless. We give our members electronic access to their health information and encourage them to consult their physicians via e-mail. We want to break down the barriers between patients and providers so that everyone is working together.

The Quarterly: What challenges is KP currently facing?

Hal Wolf: Like all health systems, KP faces a variety of challenges. One of our newestis how to cope with the vast amount of data we have collected about our members. Who should have access to this data? Who should be able to use it, and in what ways? As more and more information has been gathered, we’ve realized that the cost of maintaining the databases underlying KP HealthConnect has increased. We therefore have to prioritize which types of data access are most important. For example, it’s very expensive to make all data available in real time; perhaps some types of information can be archived and retrieved on an as-needed basis.

Like all health systems today, KP must focus on cost containment and efficiency improvements; we have constant discussions about the strategic needs of the organization and the investments required to support them. KP HealthConnect has enabled us to innovate in multiple areas of disease management. But we have to keep its costs under control.

The Quarterly: What advice do you have for other health systems that are thinking about creating more integrated care delivery models?

Hal Wolf: This is something we’ve been studying and talking to the National Health Service (NHS) about, and so I’ll offer a few suggestions.

First, the health system must establish an effective method for creating and implementing care pathways. As part of this effort, it must set up the right handoffs between the various providers and make certain that incentives are in place to support providers working together. The NHS, through its world-class commissioning program, is attempting to do just this.

Second, it is crucial that the health system think about how it collects and shares information. As it does this, the system must consider the needs of its constituents, such as its local providers, payor organizations, and national regulators. It must also make sure that its leaders are aligned on how and why information should be shared. We learned this lesson the hard way; developing a good IT system for a health system is a difficult task. Before we began using KP HealthConnect, we attempted to implement another approach to electronic medical records, and that implementation did not go well. We did not have focused leadership from the health plans or medical groups. That changed when George Halvorson became CEO of KP. The experience taught us that large-scale change can be achieved only if management is aligned on the same goals.

Third, the health system must determine whether its internal channels of communication are sufficiently open—and if they are not, open them. Communication is not necessarily a question of putting everyone involved in a patient’s care in the same building (although that certainly helps). Instead, it requires that everyone talk openly to each other and maintain the same patient-centric focus.

That last point may be the most important of all: the patient must always come first. We have found that the combination of a good data environment, strong end-to-end processes, clear communications, and a patient-centric focus creates integrated care. It also encourages everyone within the system to do their best.

Notes

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Recommend (64)
  • 5 JANUARY 2010
    Sachin Saxena
    VP, Strategy and Marketing
    GlobalLogic
    San Jose, CA USA

    ...people often equate HMO to rationing care which is then linked to lower quality. Breaking this perception link would be important to the success of models like Kaiser and ultimately reducing the cost of health care.

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    Sachin Saxena
    VP, Strategy and Marketing
    GlobalLogic
    San Jose, CA USA

    I am a Kaiser member and love the convenience of the system. Integrated healthcare delivery and insurance ensures that Kaiser is motivated to keep me and my family healthy. So this is a win-win model. However, the HMO marketshare in the US has remained flat (slight dip) at around 20% over the last few years. That is because people often equate HMO to rationing care which is then linked to lower quality. Breaking this perception link would be important to the success of models like Kaiser and ultimately reducing the cost of health care.

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  • 1 DECEMBER 2009
    Dr. Sheshagiri Bengeri
    NHS
    London, UK

    ...Better IT systems mean better communication between physicians, which means better patient care.

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    Dr. Sheshagiri Bengeri
    NHS
    London, UK

    KP understands the importance of the latest technology, mainly IT, despite heavy costs. It really helps to better patient care by giving physicians a chance to look at patient notes and investigations at the touch of a button sitting anywhere in the world, and to formulate a plan by researching available treatment plans and using EBM. This reduces the stress levels to a great extent compared to the present NHS system of ill-organized paper notes from which the pages have come loose and doctors and nurses illegible hand writing. Illegible hand writing leads to poor communication and duplication of material.

    Electronic paper records also help in saving physicians and nurses time. The current paper notes waste physicians time on the day of surgery as everyone is waiting for same set of notes. Some times they go missing forcing cancellation of surgery and wasting valuable resources. I am quite familiar with Centricity used at University of Michigan Health systems and we were quite happy with it. In the meantime, NHS could do what the doctors in other countries do. By giving photocopies of all the investigations, referral letters, and radiological investigations on a CD to patients, they can carry them to the hospitals they go to. Again it avoids unnecessary cancellations of operations on the day of surgery. If it works for maternity patients it should work for other patients too. Better IT systems mean better communication between physicians, which means better patient care.

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  • 18 JULY 2009
    Pradeep Thadani
    Director
    Lionbridge Technologies, Inc.
    Baltimore, MD USA

    An important takeaway outlined by Mr Wolf in this interview is that a robust, scalable, and integrated approach is required to address the emerging needs of healthcare organizations....

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    Pradeep Thadani
    Director
    Lionbridge Technologies, Inc.
    Baltimore, MD USA

    An important takeaway outlined by Mr Wolf in this interview is that a robust, scalable, and integrated approach is required to address the emerging needs of healthcare organizations. Also, while management commitment and transparency are important, the entire system should be patient-centric: thus it becomes the governing factor that drives the collection, processing, and dissemination of information.

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  • 14 JULY 2009
    Paibul suriyawongpaisal
    Professor
    Ramathibodi Hospital
    Thailand

    This interview provided an interesting and timely story of how health care system changes at the meso-level (organizational level) could be undertaken to benefit the patients....

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    Paibul suriyawongpaisal
    Professor
    Ramathibodi Hospital
    Thailand

    This interview provided an interesting and timely story of how health care system changes at the meso-level (organizational level) could be undertaken to benefit the patients. It is well organized story-telling to shed lights on the operational meaning of integrated care.

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  • 4 JULY 2009
    Chris Boorman
    CMO
    Informatica
    Redwood City, CA

    ...in healthcare as in many other industries, the value comes from the data and how we collect, use, and trust it. This is a perfect example of “data integration” in action.

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    Chris Boorman
    CMO
    Informatica
    Redwood City, CA

    I’d like to congratulate Kaiser Permanente on putting the patient first. In today’s society, it is often difficult to ensure that we are focused on the right things. IT has become large, complex, and expensive, and often loses sight of its primary purpose. The focus here on the data (or information) is refreshing and critical. By enabling an environment in which data is considered the primary asset, and by looking at ways of sharing that data, lives have been improved. Without this, as Mr. Wolf states, it is impossible to gather and share information, track outcomes, or systematically identify innovations that improve patient care—particularly when faced with the vast amount of data being collected.

    Moving towards being a data driven enterprise is a great step in focusing on patients, the information about them, and the ways in which that information is shared and mantained. IT needs to move beyond the building of infrastrucutre and Kaiser Permanente is a great example of an organization who has done just that by looking to manage their most critical asset: patient data. You see, in healthcare as in many other industries, the value comes from the data and how we collect, use, and trust it. This is a perfect example of “data integration” in action.

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  • 3 JULY 2009
    Christopher Koller
    Health insurance Commissioner
    State of Rhode Island
    Cranston, RI USA

    ...The article begs the question of how to create markets where the achievements of K-P and its integrated medical care and financing siblings are valued...

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    Christopher Koller
    Health insurance Commissioner
    State of Rhode Island
    Cranston, RI USA

    Mr. Wolf’s insights are important for managers and policy makers. The article begs the question of how to create markets where the achievements of K-P and its integrated medical care and financing siblings—such as Geisinger Health Plan, Group Health Co-op of Puget Sound, Health Partners, among others—are valued. Long before insurance companies got in on the game, the Managed Care industry was founded on the principle of integrating health care delivery and financing. These staff model HMOs got quite good at demonstrating the improved health outcomes and lower, long-term population costs that come with integration. But the market did not want this. Most failed because employers have valued provider choice to satisfy employees and short term pricing discounts obtained by squeezing providers. It is possible that markets—structured by government to encourage fair underwriting, discourage risk shifting, and promote information exchange—that relied on more individuals purchasing their own insurance would make the trade off between provider choice and quality/cost more readily apparent. Alternatively, a government-financed system might promote this integration, although Medicare’s track record in this has not been great. However, a continued reliance on the employer financing mechanism predominant in the US will keep barriers high to replicating Kaiser’s successes.

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  • 2 JULY 2009
    David McFeeters-Krone
    President
    Intellectual Assets
    Portland, OR

    I was hoping to hear from Mr Wolf where additional savings can be found....

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    David McFeeters-Krone
    President
    Intellectual Assets
    Portland, OR

    I was hoping to hear from Mr Wolf where additional savings can be found. There is much talk of the “trillion dollars of waste.” It would seem that as Kaiser has their system instrumented, they should be able to identify it and root it out, making Kaiser the poster child for efficient health care delivery. Disease registries are terrific and clearly work best in closed systems where the registry owner can benefit from the extra expense, but will that bring us in line with the rest of the world with respect to costs and healthy people?

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  • 2 JULY 2009
    Stanley Rourke
    Senior Vice President
    SMC Capital
    Louisville, KY USA

    It sounds to me as if this should be the model for the US health care system. A coordinated not-for-profit program makes ultimate sense.

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    Stanley Rourke
    Senior Vice President
    SMC Capital
    Louisville, KY USA

    It sounds to me as if this should be the model for the US health care system. A coordinated not-for-profit program makes ultimate sense.

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  • 2 JULY 2009
    Tom Mariner
    VP
    Quantum Medical Imaging
    Long Island, NY USA

    ...I am a big believer in healthcare IT as a cost saver and a patient care improver, but the article reminded me that it is an overall system that involves some of our most talented professionals....

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    Tom Mariner
    VP
    Quantum Medical Imaging
    Long Island, NY USA

    A must read for anyone who is passionate about, and is determined to take action on our nation’s healthcare system. I am a big believer in healthcare IT as a cost saver and a patient care improver, but the article reminded me that it is an overall system that involves some of our most talented professionals. I love the concept of not only letting the physicians and others set the metrics they measure themselves by, but the system provides for the metrics to improve with experience.

    The timeliness of the advice from a series of organizations as we are considering how to improve our medical delivery is vital—some of the takeaways I get are: 1) a cookie cutter approach with federal mandates won’t work, 2) a diverse mixture of organizations can work if we let those involved innovate—community clinics aligned with primary care hospitals for example, and 3) provide ways for patients to manage their own health.

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  • 2 JULY 2009
    Vikas Kuthial
    CEO
    First India Assistance
    New Delhi, India

    Such sophisticated systems work effectively in a developed country where clinical pathways are well established and widely accepted and practiced by the doctors and paramedical staff including nursing professionals....

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    Vikas Kuthial
    CEO
    First India Assistance
    New Delhi, India

    Such sophisticated systems work effectively in a developed country where the culture of electronic medical records has been in place for several years and general and administrative staff can support the implementation. More important, the clinical pathways are well established and widely accepted and practiced by the doctors and paramedical staff including nursing professionals. In a developing country, there is a common practice to rely on physical medical examination of the symptoms and prescribe medications—being conservative in the treatment plan in an effort not to burden the patient with investigative tests and the associated costs. Furthermore there is very little focus on preventive healthcare. As a result, patients often present with ailments and medical conditions that require secondary or even tertiary interventions. This, coupled with low spending on public health initiatives by the State, results in a system that has over investment in privately owned and managed tertiary care centres that focus on lifestyle diseases, while leaving elementary capacity building in preventing infectious diseases to the overburdened State owned facilities.

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  • 2 JULY 2009
    Ingrid Wild Kleckner
    Owner
    The German Connection
    Riverside, RI USA

    What a clever, effective, and transparent system; one that not only takes care of the patient but also rewards every caregiver involved...

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    Ingrid Wild Kleckner
    Owner
    The German Connection
    Riverside, RI USA

    What a clever, effective, and transparent system; one that not only takes care of the patient but also rewards every caregiver involved, as long as s/he is working within the system and at the same time trying to contain costs for the benefit of everyone. I will write to President Obama whose first steps toward a universal healthcare system I do not approve of; but I will urge him and his administrative departments to get in touch with Kaiser Permanente to apply its principles for the common good of all of us.

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